Tuesday, October 11, 2005

dynamo is your brake ...

speaking with Dirk Steyn about this today ...

The dynamo is a bad idea ...

The way that the electric cars work is that their dynamo is your break. Dynamo's pull power from the drivetrain .... so do brakes .... so the guys that build electric cars combine the 2 such that when you are braking ... you are similtaneously charging the battery - SMART !!!

Hopefully Dirk will come up with a smarter way of implementing the dynamo on the ee(R)go bikes.

Monday, October 03, 2005

Rake & Trail

A great discussion on the importance of Trail to Chopper Geometry from Chopper Kit USA.

Elementary Chopper Geometry
Here are some basic chopper geometry facts that I discovered in my quest. Probably the most important aspect when planning a chopper project is the trail dimension. The trail dimension is a large factor in determining the handling characteristics of the bike. A proper trail dimension will insure a proper handling bike with no surprises. A trail dimension that is extreme will make a bike difficult to handle and in some cases down right dangerous.

A stock setup with normal rake and trail dimensions. With the trail dimension somewhere between 2 to 4 inches, the bike will handle easily at both high and low speeds. Flowing smoothly through curves without swaying or wobbling.

The rake angle is increased at the neck. If the trail dimension is too great, the bike will handle sluggishly at high speeds. It will seem almost too steady. You will have trouble balancing your bike at lower speeds, or on winding roads. It will feel generally sluggish and clumsy.

The rake angle is increased at the trees. With too little and in extreme cases negative trail, (steering head angle point falls behind the front axle point), the bike will handle with unbelievable ease at low speeds, but be completely out of balance at high speed. It will easily develop a fatal high-speed wobble. Extremely dangerous!

One of the major reasons that I decided to go with the AME chopper kit is the design of the steering head. AME states that "the bike retains the stock trail dimension" and "is safe and drivable up to the top speed of the bike". The way they do this is to combine both neck and tree rake angles to achieve the overall rake of 14 degrees for the kit. The rake at the neck is approximately 9 degrees and the rake at the trees is approximately 5 degrees, for the 14 degree rake total. The neck rake angle increases the trail dimension and the tree rake angle, in turn, decreases the trail dimension. So, what you end up with is a canceling effect on the trail dimension while the rake angle is increased by 14 degrees. In short, by incorporating both rake methods, the AME chopper kit DOES maintain the stock trail dimension.

Saturday, October 01, 2005

Frame Builders

NoName Customs
Northwest Chopper Bicycles ... based in WA!!!

The average wheelbase ...

... of a Long Wheel Base recumbent is ... 65" to 70". From "The Recumbent Bicycle", by Gunnar Fehlau

The ideal riding position for a recumbent is to have the seat / back of the rider at 120 degrees to their legs as in this diagram, also from Fehlau's book ... apparently the angle of the legs to the road isn't of major issue other than that it's awkward to see, and easy to slip off the seat as it is tilted further backwards ... probably not a good idea.



I think this 120 degree position will be awkward for riding while not pedalling, so the rider will be able to tilt the seat more upright if required ... this all starts me thinking about the frame design - but I must finish spec'ing the drive train & generators 1st ...

Perfect Seats

For the ee(R)go ...


These are seats from Actionbent (I'm learning that "bent" = "cool" for recumbent!).

It may make sense to add some more upholstery to 'em ... the seats need to be designed "into" the wheel arches.

Something I really like about these seats is the radius in the lower back ... which will hug the rear wheel nicely. When designing the frame, we'll find a way to "tilt" these seats eaither back into recombent cycling position, or forward into chopper riding position.

Cost ... $165

Also from the Actionbent website ...
































The Recumbent Advantage:
  • Recumbents are fun to ride!
  • Comfortable seat; no more sore butt, back, neck, or arms!
  • Full cardio-healthy, no-impact workout without having to sit in a hot gym on a stationary machine.
  • They look Way Cool, and they're the most fun you can have on two wheels!.
  • Recumbents let you ride faster, longer, and farther.
  • All Human Powered Vehicle (HPV) speed records have been set on recumbent bicycles.
  • Low profile and laid-back body position are more aerodynamic. Seat angle adjusts easily
  • Did I mention fun? These things are a blast!


DriveTrain - Rear Wheel

Here's what we're looking for ....

  • A fat car wheel - possibly from a street-rod
  • Spoked wheel - matching a car wheel's spokes to the bicycle hubs is going to be interesting
  • Space - for the hub motors. If there's one drawback in the Tidalforce motors, it's that they are quite large - compared to other similar hub motors.
  • As light as possble - considering it may still be the heaviest single item on the bike.

I can't find the diameter of the hub motors anywhere - but they can apparently be fitted in wheels that are between 20" and 28" in diameter.

For the front wheel, we're gonna spec. a smaller, fatter bicycle wheel ... easy ... for the rear wheel, we're going with a nice fat street-rod wheel.


Something like this wicked wheel from Dayton Wire Wheels ...












  • Can be customized in chrome, 24K Gold?, or painted to match any color
  • The Only ... Wire Wheels That Never Need Truing
  • 3 Year Warranty on Finish and Structure
  • Paint Match with Most Color Codes
  • Polish Stainless Steel Spokes
  • Forged Steel Hub (don't need these !!!)
  • Direct Bolt or True Knock Off Wheels (N/A?)
  • Every Wheel Sealed Tubeless
  • Size Range 13" to 24" (what is this dia?) - could be tight!!!
Here are the details for specifying the size of the Dayton wheels ...

I Love this from Dayton's advertisement ... Daytons Wire Wheels are Customizable. They'd better be :-)


Thoughts about batteries ...

It would be super-sweet if batteries obeyed Moore's Law ... we'd have all been riding around in electric Hummers by now.

It just doesn't look like we'll get there - at least not in the next decade - but still, we need to replace gas as our primary fuel for transportation.

Electricity would be a prime candidate if it weren't for batteries!!!

Progress has been made & we have many usable portable battery-powered devices today than we'd have imagined possible ... but I dare to say that more progress has been made in the efficiency of the machines they power than in the power to size ratio of the batteries themselves. My laptop will still die after 4,5 hrs away from a power source.

Of all of the silly rules we impose on ourselves for this journey, I'm convinced that running the prototype ee(R)go's non-stop is the most important ... if we can prove that that can be done, we can show that we have at least one viable option ... that's possibly even more robust than its predecessor. Speaking of which, it's probably funny to note that my biggest apprehension about pulling this off at this stage is whether my Land Rover will make the journey ... there's something in that ...

There has to be a viable option to this problem with batteries ...

There's a Russian-invented brainstorming science called TRIZ that's exactly the type of thinking that should be applied to this problem ... it seems to me that too much effort has been thrown at trying to force batteries to obey Moore's Law - & they won't, until we see some new "step change".

TRIZ says that there are only 40 standard Inventive Principles ... and 76 standard solutions to all problems. If you look at the TRIZ lists, you see simple principles of science and nature listed ... the vaccuum, magnets ... etc. etc. what's fascinating is they're not very long lists - yet they seem surprisingly complete!!! The science of TRIZ is to open-mindedly apply all of the principles & solutions to a problem that you're looking to solve - and then evalute which is most viable / succesful.

That's the aproach that we're going to take with charging the batteries on the ee(R)go. The probelm we're going to solve is how to ride the bikes continuously for 6,000 miles (stopping only to swap riders). The approach we're going to take is to TRIZ the problem of keeping the batteries charged ... and believe me, our bases will be loaded ...

I admit that haven't read through the TRIZ lists again ... but am already attached to implementing all of these strategies on the bikes & the journey ...

  • Wheel-driven dynamo ... well-proven on bicycles ... should benefit from the speeds we're targetting .... must be able to "free-wheel" & offer little resistance ... simple solution but probably not good for much more than running the aux. systems.
  • Solar Panels ... I'm very bullish about these. The bike's design allows for a LOT of panel surface area (considering this is a bike andd all) ... solar panels work & should be easy to spec. ... we'll place them at different points on the bike & have some good data by the time we get to Peru. the support vehicle must be able to measure weather conditions to map those to panel's performance.
  • Wind Turbines ... this is a shot in the dark but could prove useful. At 30 to 45 mph, there's quite a bit of wind coming over the ee(R)go. Could we harness some of that to charge the batteries? I think we can & that there are possibly 2 good collection points ... one is at the top of the solar panels on the front forks ... and the other is at the drivers feet & over the rear wheels.
  • Swappable Batteries. This is the ultimate failsafe. If nothing else works, this plan will. We need to be able to detach single batteries when they're discharged and simply plug in charged ones. The RMB1's should work well for this ... but will need some modification for simple mounting & dismounting. This picture above shows the standard connections for the RMB1. It needs to be easier, quicker, less finnecky to change a battery ... get this right and we'll be able to change batteries on the road ... charging spare batteries in the support vehicle. This is the (essential) fail-safe plan for this project ... this requirement must be nailed.

To TRIZ the ee(R)go, we're going to ride the prototypes 6,000 miles & measure the performance of each of the strategies above. The production bikes will impliment the best of what we invent ...

Drive Train - Batteries


Since the Motors & controllers are from Tidalforce, I'm going to get lazy & spec. their battery as well - maybe not lazy, they've put a lot of work into ensuring their components work well together.

This battery, the RMB1 comes as a part of a "carry-on kit" - we won't need the rest of the kit & hopefully we can buy batteries "raw". The ad above is from the Electric Cyclery in California - these guys seem obsessed - & carry an awesome range of vehicles - we should plan to stop in at "alternative vehicle" manufacturers and retailers on route ... hit me up (comment below) if you want us to swing by.

The batteries will be mounted where a traditional chopper's gas tank is - see the sketch (possibly closer to the forks than that) - we'll use at least two batteries parallel to each other at an off-set angle - for asthetic & to "mock" the cylinder heads of ee(R)go's louder ancestors.

How many batteries? It depends ... on ...
- the space we have on the frame (must design the frames first) - but I think we will have space for more than we need.
- the impact of the batteries weight on the performance
- our ability to take advantage of the extra juice ... I don't think it's an issue of more power but we should be able to get more distance out of these ...

Rechargable batteries need to be cooled by the looks of it ... we'll measure their temperature on the run ... where they're positioned, it'll be simple run the exhaust winds from the front turbines over the batteries ... cooling sorted - consider being able to run the turbines in "fan" mode if additional cooling is needed. - note - there's no water on these Bikes!!!

Here's the spec for the RMB1 ...

Battery Configuration: 30 Nickel Metal Hydride ā€œDā€ cells wired in series
Measurements 13.2 x 4 x 4.5 inches
Weight 15 lbs
Nominal Voltage: 36 Volts
Operating Range: 42-29 volts
Nominal Capacity: 8.5 amp-hrs (306 watt-hr)
Charge time: 3 – 6 hours
Battery Life: With proper care and maintenance, the battery will retain up to 80% capacity after 400 discharge and recharge cycles

15 lbs !!! only a foot long ... but heavy suckers !!!